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  Study shows more violence in religious societes

  by dawg in

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  since no one bothered to read in my last thread how secular societies have lower rates of violence and teenage pregnancy than societies where many people profess belief in god.

  i figured i'd give those among us who are religious the benefit of the doubt that the post was lost in the haze of the argument.

  so, i thought i'd post it again here.

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  Beta Male

  i dont see what needs to be explained. religion has killed more people in the course of human civilization than atheism.

  religion has been used to dehumanize opponents. so has atheism.

  religion has been used to justify horrible crimes. so has atheism.

  two differences.

  religion has been at it for a lot longer.

  and those crimes commited by atheists were not done in the name of atheism, more like a political expediency.

  i guess any philosophy can be turned to evil ends, its just that religion has the distinction of having that done to it longer and with greater severity than atheism.
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  Study shows more violence in religious societes

  by dawg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since no one bothered to read in my last thread how secular societies have lower rates of violence and teenage pregnancy than societies where many people profess belief in god.

  i figured i'd give those among us who are religious the benefit of the doubt that the post was lost in the haze of the argument.

  so, i thought i'd post it again here.

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  Beta Male

  the number of people killed by atheists is far outweighed by the number killed in the name of whatever god the religion in authority worships.
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  ABC reporter arrested in Denver

  by John Doe in

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  2. friends

  asa eslocker was investigating the role of lobbyists and top donors at the convention.

  by brian ross - aug. 27, 2008. .

  denver -- police in denver arrested an abc news producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of democratic senators and vip donors leaving a private meeting at the brown palace hotel.. .

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  Beta Male

  gotcha. and maybe im completely off base here about this too, you never know. maybe the cops were being assholes, it wouldnt be the first time.
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  ABC reporter arrested in Denver

  by John Doe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  asa eslocker was investigating the role of lobbyists and top donors at the convention.

  by brian ross - aug. 27, 2008. .

  denver -- police in denver arrested an abc news producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of democratic senators and vip donors leaving a private meeting at the brown palace hotel.. .

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  Beta Male

  well, um, youre welcome i guess, satanus.?
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  ABC reporter arrested in Denver

  by John Doe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  asa eslocker was investigating the role of lobbyists and top donors at the convention.

  by brian ross - aug. 27, 2008. .

  denver -- police in denver arrested an abc news producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of democratic senators and vip donors leaving a private meeting at the brown palace hotel.. .

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  Beta Male

  thats the greatest thing that ever happened to that reporter. he is no doubt thrilled to death that he was arrested on camera. how many times was he asked to leave the area before they arrested him? did he come back after being moved to the other side of the street?

  a citizen can use public property as they see fit, as long as it doesnt interfere with other people. if enough people complained to hotel management about being photographed when they really didnt want to be, for whatever reason, then the hotel management had a right to complain to the police about him. and if the reporter repeatedly ignored the officers orders to stop what other people felt was an intrusive act on his part, well, there you go i guess.

  we need to see all the footage, i think.
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  In Memory of Ray Franz's Nephew ...

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
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  [...] however sincere the vice president [fred franz} was, it is an undeniable fact that his rather cloistered life at the headquarters from his early twenties onward had largely isolated him from life as lived by ordinary people 'on the outside' (a term used frequently by staff workers at the watch tower headquarters with reference to life outside their select community).

  the things being experienced by those who were engaged in secular employment, who had homes and families, knew what it was to be married or to be parents, had to face the problems and difficulties of day-to-day living as most people face them, formed little or no part of his experience.

  from my own personal association with him over many years, it was evident that he was quite detached---or perhaps the expression could be "insulated"---from the reality of life as lived by the average person.

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  i must admit to laughing out loud at that part of the book. that is, of course, because i didnt know the deceased.
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  "Only active "jw's will survive armageddon"....a list please.......

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find it interesting that jw's so often think they are in full harmony with all wt teachings, but in reality, they have softend a tough jw position in there own mind.

  for instance, a close jw friend of mine....my age....actually told me he did not think wt ever said that only jw's will survive armageddon!!!!

  of course this is because he does not want to think of billions of good decent people that are not dubs dying....i believed that way....and my elder dad does too.

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  undercovers quote is in direct contradiction of the other qoute saying that only the "incorrigibly wicked" would be destroyed.

  it says that even those "ignorant" that is, never been witnessed to and are oblivious to their live-giving truths, WILL BE destroyed.

  thats like, super fair.
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  Re: My 9/11 threads ... a study in NLP ... enjoy!

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nohk8qk-ajw.

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  Beta Male

  the inner columns were the ones actually bearing the weight of the building. weakening the outside columns would have caused at worst a failing of the outer curtain of the building, but not the destruction of the building itself. when the inner, more structurally important columns failed, the building failed.

  btw, just because you know how to build, doesnt mean you know how to knock down.
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  New York Magazine looking to interview re: life at Bethel now and then

  by Dogpatch in

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  gabe sherman from new york magazine is looking to do a piece on life at bethel, patterson vs. farm, etc.

  and seems to favor human interest issues, so if you were at bethel for a few years and would like to share with him, here is the contact info:.

  dear randy,.

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  Beta Male

  sounds great provided you can avoid too much venom in the stories
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  Re: My 9/11 threads ... a study in NLP ... enjoy!

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nohk8qk-ajw.

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  Beta Male

  the fire didnt burn all 287 columns evenly, and it didnt have to. just weakening some of them would have increased the load on the other columns beyond their design limits, thereby causing their failure.